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Ne moze se reci da gotivim taj pravac jer jedino shto mogu da slusham su Green Day i Offspring upravo taj komercijalni deo pravca, znachi prilagodjen shirem delu javnosti (MTV i ta sranya..) Inache ne kapiram, kazete pravac zastupa buntovnichku ideologiju prema rezimu... da li po punk-erima postoji savrshen rezim (znachi onaj koji njima odgovara) ili je to chisto bunt radi bunta ??? |
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Nema svaki punk bend istu foru bunta. Pistolsi su recimo bili bunt radi bunta, doduse imali su razloga koji su opravdavali to, ali su ipak bili samo bunt radi bunta. Oni su u pocetku zeleli da budu bunt na drustvo, bunt na muzicku scenu. Bunt na "sistem" je tek kasnije dusao, uostalom punk u svojim lirikama vise drustvo lupa po usima. Mnogi bendovi nemaju ideologiju, a oni koji imaju ili su ANARHSTI, ili KOMUNISTI ili FASHISIT ( nazi skinheads, samo da napomenem imas i skinheads koji nisu nacisti). Ponekad su to religiozni tripovi HARE-KRISHNA ili Hriscani ili satanisti ili vec nesto. Ali generalno pank lupa drustvo po usima. (videces liriki na kraju)
Punk rock je kao muzika, vec sam napisao, alternativa rocka. Samim tim prilagodjen je javnosti, ceo punk rock i post-punk. Hardcore punk je malo tvrdja prica.
Offspirng i americki pank bendovi. Pa nije na meni to da sudim. Bad religion, offspring, nofx i pennywise po nekom mom misljenju sigurno nisu bili komercijala. To su bendovi koji su radili zajedno a bili su sami. Nisu imali izdavacha nisu imali izdavacku kucu. Jednostavno se okupili likovi iz kraja, kupili instrumente i svirali, izrazavali se, pevali o cemu im smeta. U sustini bili su mali bendici. Od jednom, BUM, offspring ne zna se kako, pocinje da postaje ultra-giga-mega popularan. Nekako sam od sebe, nit ga je iko gurao ali siorm amerike pocnu da narucuju diskove offspirnga prvenstveno i pustao offspringovu pesmu "come out and play" po radiu, a ta drugarska ekipa (badreligion, offspring) komentarisu "nama je u to vreme bilo nezamislivo da se jedna pank pesma vrti u top10 po radiu" ali jebiga, nisu oni tu mogli nista. Sve u svemu ti bendovi se probiju, zarade dosta novca otvore izdavachke kuce.
Offspring. Snimio je jeno 5-6 albuma ako se ne vara, sad kao da je u mraku. NEma ga nigde niti se cuje za njega, pa ga smatram ne komercijalnim.
Green Day. smatram interesatnim za slushanje ali komercijalnim. Uvek su mi bili nekako prodani.
Pazi, komercijalnost nije popularnost, ili koliko ti se diskova prodaje. Komercijalnost je stav prema samo masineriji muzicke industrije i publici. U hc punku se pojavio takozvani SING ALONG, t.j gde pevach daje publici mikrofon i gde se publila penje na binu i peva zajedno sa njim ili muzicari silaze sa bine kao simbol "jedinstva" sa pubilikom. :>
I na kraju "come out and play"
Come out and play (keep'm separated) Lyrics
Artist(Band):Offspring
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You gotta keep'm separated
They're like the latest fashion
They're like a spreading disease
The kids are strappin' on their way to the classroom
Getting weapons with the greatest of ease
The gangs stake own campus locale
And if they catch you slippin' then it's all over pal
If one guy's colors and the other's don't mix
They're gonna bash it up
Bash it up x3
Hey, man you talkin' back to me
Take him out
You gotta keep'em separated
Hey, man you disrespecting me
take him out
You gotta keep'em separated
Hey, they don't pay no mind
If you're under 18 you won't be doing any time
Hey, come out and play
By the time you hear the siren
It's already too late
One goes to the morgue and the other jail
One guy's wasted and the other's a waste
It goes down the same as the thousand before
No one's getting smarter
No one's learning the score
Your never ending spree of death and violence and hate
Is gonna tie your own rope
Tie your own rope
Tie your own
Hey, man you disrespecting me
take him out
You gotta keeep'em separated
Hey, man you talkin' back to me
take him out
You gotta keep'em separated
Hey, don't pay no mind
If you're under 18 you won't be doing any time
Hey, come out and play
It goes down the same as the thousand before
No one's getting smarter
No one's learning the score
Your never ending spree of death and violence and hate
Is gonna tie your own rope
Tie your own rope
Tie your own
Hey, man you talkin' back to me
take him out
You gotta keep'em separated
Hey, man you disrespecting me
take him out
You gotta keeep'em separated
Hey, don't pay no mind
If your under 18 you won't be doing any time
Hey, come out and play